tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post5649083686256188255..comments2023-11-02T11:32:38.324+00:00Comments on The Joy of Curmudgeonry: Thermippos — The Complete DialogueDeogolwulfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02197539477668018797noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-30128146792779389682012-08-29T18:50:37.182+01:002012-08-29T18:50:37.182+01:00. . . when a poker is not at hand. . . . when a poker is not at hand. Deogolwulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02197539477668018797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-56738185826652043862012-08-29T15:49:39.352+01:002012-08-29T15:49:39.352+01:00"As for the brick: last argument of philosoph..."As for the brick: last argument of philosophers": and there was me thinking that that role was played by a poker.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-7140001940984270252012-08-29T14:18:28.263+01:002012-08-29T14:18:28.263+01:00If you absolutely have to leave us for a second ti...If you absolutely have to leave us for a second time please don't make it quite so long - I could hardly hold my breath this time!David Duffhttp://duffandnonsense.typepad.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-51808319873074859832012-08-29T13:07:35.057+01:002012-08-29T13:07:35.057+01:00"I suppose he took the brick from his premise..."<i>I suppose he took the brick from his premises?</i>"<br /><br />That's how you can tell it was a solid argument.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-60875149310313395752012-08-29T12:29:54.908+01:002012-08-29T12:29:54.908+01:00I may not be back for long!
As for the brick: las...I may not be back for long!<br /><br />As for the brick: last argument of philosophers. Deogolwulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02197539477668018797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-88339287422462774162012-08-29T12:19:38.984+01:002012-08-29T12:19:38.984+01:00A warm welcome back.
I like the idea of Socrates ...A warm welcome back.<br /><br />I like the idea of Socrates framing the debate with a brick. I suppose he took the brick from his premises?deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-59234288877284577052012-08-27T08:46:59.542+01:002012-08-27T08:46:59.542+01:00A young man of my acquaintance is studying "c...A young man of my acquaintance is studying "critical thinking" at college. <br /><br />I have exhorted him to apply his new learning to himself, as well as to others. And to be critical of the subject itself. Felixhttp://platonicmonkey.blogspot.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-37754001420228984852012-08-26T15:31:27.419+01:002012-08-26T15:31:27.419+01:00So glad you're back. Thought I was going to ha...So glad you're back. Thought I was going to have to learn german to ever read you again.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14131427883067501547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-78310350352349127602012-08-26T10:18:06.437+01:002012-08-26T10:18:06.437+01:00As the same time, not only does Thermippos not kno...As the same time, not only does Thermippos not know (or care!) what '<i>ad hominem</i>' means, but he probably can't be bothered to actually spell the term out, opting instead for 'ad hom'.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-6769040402128769102012-08-26T09:45:03.552+01:002012-08-26T09:45:03.552+01:00"On the other hand, it may simply be consiste..."<i>On the other hand, it may simply be consistent with the (approx) 1SD decline in average intelligence over the past century - people smart enough to consider both a and b to infer c are now statistical outliers.</i>"<br /><br />I don't think it's a matter of intelligence, nor decline thereof. I think it's that 'modern education' is designed to train its captive audience to scorn and hate critical thought.Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-78371048133309222842012-08-26T09:09:26.865+01:002012-08-26T09:09:26.865+01:00Hello, all!
BGC,
"Mere word-games" and...Hello, all!<br /><br />BGC,<br /><br />"Mere word-games" and "Occam's Razor" are two of my favourite Thermipposan defences, but none is so impenetrable as the shrug or the general attitude of "yeah, well, anyway" --- a nuclear-bunker dug deep under a mountain-side of granite indifference. Deogolwulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02197539477668018797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-56439288530528005212012-08-26T06:48:03.642+01:002012-08-26T06:48:03.642+01:00Excellent. I was trying to express this in Thought...Excellent. I was trying to express this in Thought Prison by my comments on public debate and the way that sound bites rule out three-step logic (if this, and this, then that).<br /><br />Three-step logic in modern discussions causes glazed eyes, comments about 'hair-splitting' and a general sense of 'yeah, well, anyway). <br /><br />Women in public life, in particular, seem to hate it - regard it as either evidence of Asperger's syndrome or 'patronizing'. <br /><br />On the other hand, it may simply be consistent with the (approx) 1SD decline in average intelligence over the past century - people smart enough to consider both a and b to infer c are now statistical outliers. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-4823867531313644292012-08-26T00:21:49.836+01:002012-08-26T00:21:49.836+01:00Now that was invigorating!Now that was invigorating!Ilíonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339406092961816142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-84639199844478911782012-08-25T23:57:35.701+01:002012-08-25T23:57:35.701+01:00Huzzah!Huzzah!vimothynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-35823788659563265452012-08-25T20:33:02.655+01:002012-08-25T20:33:02.655+01:00A welcome return.A welcome return.Mercurius Aulicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130901970855873480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13305228.post-5084317036724416792012-08-25T18:09:14.414+01:002012-08-25T18:09:14.414+01:00good to see you're back!good to see you're back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com